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Following my last post, I couldn't resist the temptation to go and check. Check IPv6 connectivity of the IPv6 Task-Forces that is.

Europe

Let's start with the European IPv6 Task Force then...we find them here. At least they have IPv6

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ipv6tf.org aaaa 2a01:48:1::2e0:81ff:fe05:4658

On that page we can read

"Our objective is to ensure that Europe's competitiveness in wireless technology is not jeopardised by the lack of a clear road map towards IPv6," European Enterprise Commissioner Erkki Liikanen said in his opening speech to the IPv6 Task Force.
laptop3:~$ dig +short www.eu.int aaaa laptop3:~$

Oops.

I can't seem to find out who more is supporting the European Task Force though. The web-site(s) does leave a lot to wish for....

North America


Here we are more out of luck

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.nav6tf.org aaaa laptop3:~$

Oops again...

The NAv6TF at least have a list of their steering group and other advisors. Let's look at how well their employers and organizations support IPv6.


Jim Bound - Chair
(IPv6 Forum CTO / Senior Fellow, Hewlett Packard)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.hp.com aaaa www.hpgtm.nsatc.net.

Hmm, CNAME, so...

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.hpgtm.nsatc.net aaaa
laptop3:~$

Latif Ladid - Vice Chair and Marketing Director
(IPv6 Forum President / Internet Society Board Trustee / Chair EU IPv6 Task Force)

See above.

Geof Lambert - Vice Chair and Projects Director
(Chair California IPv6 Task Force, Maxon Search Group)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.maxsonsearch.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Yanick Pouffary - Technology Director
(IPv6 Technical Directorate / HP Distinguished Technologist)

See above

Tony Hain - Technology Director
(IPv6 Forum Technical Directorate / Cisco IPv6 Technical Leader)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.cisco.com aaaa laptop3:~$

David Green - Technology Director
(IPv6 Forum ExCom/ Director, Command Information)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.commandinformation.com aaaa 2610:f8:c38:22::30:223

Renee Esposito - Network Information Assurance Advisor
(Booz Allen Hamilton)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.boozallen.com aaaa www.boozallen.com.att-idns.net. laptop3:~$ dig +short www.boozallen.com.att-idns.net aaaa laptop3:~$

Erica Johnson - Network Deployment Advisor
(University of New Hampshire Interoperability Lab Managing Engineer)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.unh.edu aaaa laptop3:~$

John Loughney - Network Mobility Advisor
(IPv6 Technical Directorate / Principle Researcher, Nokia)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.nokia.com aaaa laptop3:~$

John Brzozowski - Network Systems Integration Advisor
(Chair,Mid-Atlantic IPv6 Task Force/ IPv6 Architect, Comcast)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.comcast.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Yves Poppe - Network Telecommunications/Provider Advisor
(Director, IP Strategy, Teleglobe Canada)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.teleglobe.ca aaaa www-ca.teleglobe.com. webredirect.teleglobe.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short www.teleglobe.ca aaaa www-ca.teleglobe.com. webredirect.teleglobe.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short www-ca.teleglobe.com aaaa webredirect.teleglobe.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short webredirect.teleglobe.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Tim Chown - Network Application Advisor
(Co-chair IPv6 Forum's Education and Awareness WG, Professor at University of South Hampton)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.soton.ac.uk aaaa virtualweb.sucs.soton.ac.uk. laptop3:~$ dig +short virtualweb.sucs.soton.ac.uk aaaa laptop3:~$

Larry Levine - Network Emergency Response Advisor
(Program Director, Combat Systems Communications, CECOM, FT Monmouth, U.S. Army)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.monmouth.army.mil aaaa laptop3:~$

Joya Subudhi - Public Relations Advisor
(President, Subudhi Consulting Group)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.subudhi.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Ozzie Diaz - Wireless Network Advisor
(Consultant and Wireless Network SME)

See HP above...


Brett Thorson - Network Integration & Security Advisor
(Network Scientist - RavenWing Inc.)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ravenwing.com aaaa ravenwing.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short ravenwing.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Advisory Council
Vint Cerf - Advisory Council
(Honorary Chairman IPv6 Forum / Chief Internet Evangelist, Google)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.gogole.com aaaa www.google.com. www.l.google.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short www.l.google.com aaaa laptop3:~$


Jessica Little - Advisory Council
Rick Summerhill - Advisory Council
(Associate Director, Internet2)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.internet2.edu aaaa laptop3:~$

Marc Blanchet - Advisory Council
(IPv6 Forum Technical Directorate / President, Viagenie)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.viagenie.qc.ca aaaa jazz.viagenie.qc.ca. laptop3:~$ dig +short jazz.viagenie.qc.ca aaaa laptop3:~$

Frank Cuccias - Advisory Council
(Program Manager, SI/SE&IS, Lockheed Martin)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.lockheedmartin.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Kim Hemphill - Advisory Council
(Senior Project Manager, Raytheon)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.raytheon.com aaaa laptop3:~$


Terry Davis - Advisory Council
(CIO, Connexion by Boeing)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.boeing.com aaaa www.lb.boeing.com. laptop3:~$ dig +short www.lb.boeing.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Yurie Rich - Advisory Council
(Director of IPv6 Operations, Command Information)


See Above


Asia Pacific

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ap-ipv6tf.org aaaa laptop3:~$


Oops.

We find their Advisory board and do the same test

Mr. Dong Liu, CEO & President of BII Group and Beijing Internet Institute

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.biigroup.com aaaa laptop3:~$


Jun Murai, Professor, Keio University

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.keio.ac.jp aaaa laptop3:~$

Dr. Hyeong-Ho Lee, President of IPv6 Forum Korea

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ipv6.or.kr aaaa ipv6.or.kr. laptop3:~$ dig +short ipv6.or.kr aaaa laptop3:~$


Dr. Mohamed Awang Lah, CEO, Jaring, Malaysia

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.jaring.my aaaa laptop3:~$

Dr. Feipei Lai, President of TWNIC

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.twnic.net.tw aaaa laptop3:~$

And for their Steering Committee

Mr. Zhenzhou Lei, Senior Specialist of MII, Former Chief Engineer of China Academy of Telecommunications Research of MII, Former Director of Telecom S&T Information Research Institute of MII, Deputy Director of Policy and Resource Committee of Internet Society of China

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.mii.gov.cn aaaa laptop3:~$

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.isc.org.cn aaaa
laptop3:~$

Mr. Xing Li, Professor of Tsinghua University, Deputy Director of China Education and Research Network (CERNET)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.tsinghua.edu.cn aaaa www.d.tsinghua.edu.cn. 2001:da8:200:200::4:100

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.edu.cn aaaa
laptop3:~$

Mr. Le Ricky Lu, irector of Strategic Co-operation Group of 6TNet (IPv6 Telecom Trial Network) of MII, Global Strategy Executive Director of BII Group

See above

Mr. Hemanth Dattatreya, President, IPv6 Forum India

laptop3:~$ dig +short ipv6forum.in aaaa laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ipv6forum.in aaaa laptop3:~$

Gopi Garge, Vice-President, IPv6 Forum India

See above


Takashi Arano, CTO, Intec NetCore, Inc.

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.inetcore.com aaaa Pandora.inetcore.com. 2001:200:562:3::6

Kosuke Ito, Canon Inc

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.canon.com aaaa laptop3:~$

Tomohiro Fujisaki, NTT

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ntt.co.jp aaaa laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ntt.com aaaa laptop3:~$

HyoungJun Kim, Director of IPv6 Forum Korea, Leader of NGI Standards Team in ETRI

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.etri.re.kr aaaa laptop3:~$

Dr.YuJung Kim, Chair of Application WG in IPv6 Forum Korea, Leader of NGI Team in NCA


laptop3:~$ dig +short www.nca.co.kr aaaa
laptop3:~$

Winston Seah, Lead Scientist and Manager, Networking Department, Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R), Associate, Singapore Advanced Research and Education Network (SingAREN)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.i2r.a-star.edu.sg aaaa garnet.i2r.a-star.edu.sg. laptop3:~$ dig +short garnet.i2r.a-star.edu.sg aaaa laptop3:~$

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.singaren.net.sg aaaa
hakkar.singaren.net.sg.
laptop3:~$ dig +short hakkar.singaren.net.sg aaaa
laptop3:~$

James Seng, Assistant Director, Enabler Technologies, Technology Group, Infocomm Development Authority (IDA)

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ida.gov.sg aaaa laptop3:~$
Dr. Peter Fu-Ching Wang, Vice-President, IPv6 Forum Taiwan, Deputy General Director, CCL/ITRI

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.ipv6.org.tw aaaa
2001:c50:ffff:1:2e0:18ff:fe95:b229

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.itri.org.tw aaaa
laptop3:~$


Dr. Vincent WS Chen, Project Co-Chair, National IPv6 Deployment and Development Program, Chair, Promotion Area, IPv6 Forum Taiwan

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.proj.ipv6.org.tw aaaa 2001:c50:ffff:1:2e0:18ff:fe95:b229

Dr. Han-Chieh Chao, Deputy Director, NICI IPv6 R&D division, Co-chair, Technical Area, IPv6 Forum Taiwan

laptop3:~$ dig +short www.nici.nat.gov.tw aaaa laptop3:~$

I could have done more of the task-forces, the national ones etc, but I think this is enough to hint at a trend. Out of 60 hosts tested 6 had IPv6 addresses, which admittedly was more than I expected.

Now, I didn't mean this as a bashing of the IPv6 Task-Forces or their devotees. I do realize that these individuals have little or no influence over their respective organizations IT departments and the operators of their web-servers. Some of these corporations might even not be able to deploy IPv6 based on for example non-existing support in load-balancers etc.

I also realize that this is a far from scientific or fair study. But it does show something. These individuals spends what I assume is their employers time and money on this work. Hopefully with either consent of encouragement from these same employers. Some of these employers might do this based on some altruistic goal I am sure (or we can at least pretend so in order to try and be fair), but I doubt all of them. If that is the case these companies allow their employees to do this based on some hope of increased or future revenues. I.e they participate in the marketing and push for deployment of IPv6 as they believe that IPv6 will give them new or increased sales opportunities. Traditionally sales of goods and services have been done under the assumption that the goods will bring added value to the buyer. If not we usually call the items snake-oil, hoaxes, etc.

So what about IPv6? We have a pretty interesting list of corporate proponents who have their employees work for organizations that have declared 'IPv6 ready for prime time' and production deployment. So....why aren't them using it themselves? Why do they believe they can achieve increased revenues by selling this added value t their customers, but the same technology won't bring them added value? Or at least they can't convince their own IT departments there is enough added value?

Guys, it's time to open wide, take a big bite for daddy of that spoon with the dog-food, and perhaps one for mummy too while your at it...

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